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Palestine Borders and Demographics Prove to be A Ghetto

Thanks to a good idea given to me by my partner here at STL, I started to research and analyze some geographic information regarding the Jewish land-grab in Palestine. I then followed by studying some demographic info on the Gaza Strip and drew some interesting conclusions. Here’s what I found: First, some great maps over at Wikipedia with adjoining historical context info and links portraying the boundaries of Palestine/Israel since the 1916 Sykes-Picot Agreement (The linked information could have you reading ...

Social Protest Lit: Ebenezer Elliot, “The People’s Anthem”

A poem from Ebenezer Elliot entitled The People’s Anthem from Book IV called “Out of The Depths.” This chapter is focused on man’s pursuit of remedy for social injustice: When wilt thou save the people? O God of mercy! when? Not kings and lords, but nations! Flowers of the heart, O God, are they! Let them not pass, like weeds, away! Their heritage a sunless day! God save the people! Shall bring crime for ever, Strength aiding still the strong? Is it thy will, O Father? That man shall toil for wrong? “No!” ...

Stephen Moore’s Ridiculous Anti-Clean Energy Rant

Hard right-winger Stephen Moore took a break from pushing debunked trickle-down economic policies to take a pathetic shot at clean energy.  Let the stupid begin. …radical Greens, one of the most influential political forces in America today… Seriously?  He goes on to mention the famed Sierra Club as one of these forces.  And where did they rank in 2013 on lobbying: 755.  In fact, if we look at the top 50 interest groups giving to members of Congress this year, no sign ...

Anti-Israel Policies/Actions Is Not Anti-Semitsim

There have been growing protests in Europe against the mass murder of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip by the State of Israel. These actions are in response to the IDF killing 500 Muslims there with the vast majority of them being civilians. But what is troubling about these movements is, according to this article in the NYT, an anti-Semitic tinge has taken place at these protests. The story reads that in France: Several recent pro-Palestinian demonstrations in Paris have boiled over ...

Warren For President?

Today at the the annual Netroots Nation conference in Detroit, the nation’s largest gathering of liberal activists and organizers, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D) reportedly drew an applause that Hillary could only dream of. According to NYT and Politico reports, Warren was a rock-star while Hillary Clinton, the likely Democratic candidate for President, was absent. Warren’s populist talking points and her history of taking Wall Street to task (remember that Warren was an early advocate for the creation of a new Consumer Financial ...

Social Protest Literatue at Sparking The Left

Here at STL we are starting a new feature. In between our political-insight posts, I will start publishing excerpts or entire pieces of great literature that speak to crucial social and political issues which span the centuries. Though almost all in the Western tradition, the subject matters are transcendental. Now first to name my source, I am taking pieces from Upton Sinclair’s selected and edited collection “The Cry for Justice: An Anthology of the Great Social Protest Literature of All Time.” ...

Pulitzer-Winning Journalist Detained for Being Undocumented

I was first brought aware of Jose Antonio Vargas’ story last week in a piece he penned in Politico. He explained that he was in the Rio Grande Valley, in the city of McAllen, just north of the Mexican border. He was there to see first hand the tens of thousands of undocumented children, most of them from Central America, and observe how they were being treated. The trip was also used for a news conference appearance and vigil organized by United We Dream, ...

GOP Refuses Funding for Border Children Projects

A humanitarian crisis unseen before at our borders is becoming more and more urgent everyday at Rio Grande Valley, TX, and other Southwest locations. And yet the GOP is arguing over numbers. Yesterday President Obama requested an amount of $3.7 billion from Congress to help aid the 57,000 unaccompanied minors who illegally crossed the border from the Mexico side since October. They are mostly from violence-ridden Central American countries, like El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras (Honduras has the world’s highest murder ...

Selective Outrage

War is hell.  All we have to do is look around the world to see its toll.  That being said, I don't understand the lack of outrage coming from this President and his administration other than that aimed at our one ally - Israel which is doing no more than trying to protect it's people from rocket fire and constant raids from Hamas. The fact that Palestinian civilians are getting killed is a tragic yet unavoidable aspect of this war.  Why ...

Why Are We So Full Of Hate?

What has happened to human kind?  No matter where you look we find ourselves surrounded by a world filled with hate. What puzzles me is how it's combined with political correctness.  Take this country where so many words are now frowned upon and even forbidden because they are hurtful to certain people.  Redskins, squaw, savage plus a whole lot applying to blacks, orientals and hispanics not to mention middle easterners.  Has it dawned on anyone banning the names has done nothing ...

Has Putin Over Reached Once Too Often?

My, oh my.  We've watched this man make mince meat of Obama over the past several years.  Each time you could see the smirk broaden and the swagger get more pronounced. He and his allies - Iran, China, Syria and North Korea were truly enjoying themselves. But as happens with a lot of bullies, they get over confident and suddenly everything around them collapses. I'm wondering if this is the case with the downing of the Malaysian passenger jet. With the death ...

If Only It WERE The Heat!

What a day.  A passenger plane has been shot down over Ukraine uncomfortably close to the Russian border. Hamas reneged on the humanitarian cease fire so Israel launched their ground offensive. Children still pour across the border while Congress dithers. It's now being reported parents are giving them birth control in case they are raped during the journey. Along that line former member of Congress, Todd Aiken, who once talked about legitimate rape and the idea that women's bodies protected them from becoming ...

Hannity's Histrionics

For a person who doesn't have much faith in the intellect of pundits, I wonder why I watch them so often.  I wonder even more why the cable outlets and networks that employ them don't take more care in who they hire. Many of them get on crusades that bear no resemblance to reality.  Sean Hannity is one of the most prominent. The night before last  he was on his Bowe Bergdahl kick demanding to know why he was returned to ...

Do Actions Speak Louder Than Words?

If the President could run away from the border mess any faster I'm sure he would. It's being said it's because being seen in the setting of kids crammed into confined spaces with their scabies and lice would reflect badly on him.  It could even be his Katrina.  Well, maybe.  But who's fault is that? It goes to show his handlers aren't as smart as they think they are.  For one, drinking beer and shooting pool in Colorado, a state where ...

The Kids Always Went Home

Watching the immigration mess going full bore brought to mind a lot of things that have involved children from other nations.  The first thing that comes to mind is the Disney song It's a Small World After All that speaks to all we have in common. Hopes, dreams, all the warm fuzzy stuff. We've had exchange student programs where a student from another country lives with a local family to learn not only academics but what life in American and Americans ...

The Militia Is Coming, The Militia Is Coming!

That's all we need! News has it a call has gone out for militia, both unarmed and armed, to gather along the border to help private land owners protect their property in something called Operation Save Our Borders.  Terrific! Remember how well it went when militia turned out to help to  help Cliven Bundy in his fight over Federal grazing rights in Nevada?  It came within a hair's breadth of turning violent. I really feel for the border towns who are the ...

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Why Do Some People Really Seem To Hate Obama Care So Much?

Some People Positively Hate Obama Care!


Some of the boiled brain stems over on the intransigent Right keep on pumping their hate machines about Obama Care even though it is gaining more traction with The American People with each passing day – – despite their lies and ridiculously wrong-headed rhetoric.

One of their first ass-brained attacks against The Affordable Health Care Act was some bullshit about it being “An Unconstitutional Mandate.”

The Supreme Court Of The United States put that one to rest by upholding the Constitutionality of the Obama Care Law.

So when the obstructionist time wasters and big spenders of taxpayer money couldn’t use that failed argument anymore they turned to other things – – things like how the Obama Care will “Cost Jobs.”

Like any of them have been openly concerned about “Jobs” for a long long long time now, right?  When is the last time you heard any right winger in Congress talk about any plans to create more jobs for Americans?

All I have ever heard them talk about is how many jobs are being lost because of something Obama has or hasn’t done but I have yet to hear one of them come up with anything that sounds anything at all like a “Jobs Creation” plan – – have you?

Well – – we’ve been all through the rightist arguments about Obama Care being “Socialized Medicine” – – – like Medicare and Medicaid are nowhere near “Socialized Medicine” themselves, right?

The Right Wing “Death Panel” argument was disemboweled by fact checkers a long time ago so that don’t hold water no more.

So has anybody ever figure out why Righties seem to hate Obama Care so much?

I think I have found one answer that works.  It works for me anyways:

“I think Right-Tards hate Obama Care because most of it probably will be paid for by taxes that rich people pay – – along with taxes that everybody else will pay.

The Supreme Court – – I believe – – has called the “Mandate” a “Tax” and I think that is what is twisting the drawers of so many righties.

Of course – – check me if I am wrong – – anything and everything that has ever been done by the government to benefit the People has been paid for out of taxes, right?

So – – WTF?

A few extra bucks for health care?

What’s the big deal, righties?

After all Obama Care isn’t just going to be used by Libs, Democrats and Progressives.  There will be plenty of Conservatives, Republicans and Righties using it too won’t there?

I truly think the “Tax” thing is the whole thing in a nutshell.

Read More – – HERE.

Then learn what the Obama Care might do for you and your family – – – HERE.

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John Liming - American Liberal Times

Author: John Liming - American Liberal Times

I am an American Man, 72-years-old, and a Veteran of The U.S. Military. I have served honorably in both The United States Army (National Guard) and The United States Air Force for a total of seven years and three months active duty during what is now known as The Vietnam Era. I am a concerned citizen and refer to myself as "A Crazy Left Wing Liberal Nut Case with occasional Right Wing Conservative tendencies. I am particular fearful that we might get to the point, in our internal power struggles where we would be a One Party Nation.

18 comments to Why Do Some People Really Seem To Hate Obama Care So Much?

  • Maybe the real question is why so many Obama drones are so in love with the “Unaffordable” Healthcare Act when 99%,have never read the contents. In fact those of those who signed it into law did so without knowing it’s contents. Or to quote Nancy Pelosi
    “But we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy”

    Considering the negative impact and cost Obamacare is expected to have, one would think that American citizens would want to have a fundamental understanding of it prior to supporting it.

  • John,
    While I am finding your one word responses some of the most thought out and relevant you have ever provided, they certainly do prove beyond a doubt your dyed in the wool liberal mindset. Ignoring all facts that run contradictory to an opinion or dropping the subject when there is a chance one will be proven wrong is a tried and true technique of the left at all levels. It has served them well, so I guess why shouldn’t it do the same for you.

  • I am proud of my died-in-the-wool Liberal mindset. At least I live in the real world and am happy to announce that we win elections because the American People trust us far more than the other side.
    I don’t even know why I respond to this stuff.


  • If the best response you have is you win elections it’s a weak one. Remember all the leaders you dislike and were opposed to also won elections. Did that make their political agendas correct in your mind?

    So why would the winning of an election make Obama right. Unfortunately the Democrats have learned well how to win elections, give until it hurts. Equally unfortunately it is never the takers or the left that it is hurt, it’s generally the hard working individuals that are the backbone of this country. Both the middle class and those that actually create jobs. I mean seriously, who in their right mind would defend a $2 Biliion program giving free cell phones to welfare and food stamp recipients. Even the most brain dead Obama drone must see something wrong with that? Probably not?

    By the way, it looks like if she chooses to run, Hillary will be a slam dunk for the Democrats next President wanna be (Smiling Joe is ever hopeful, but seriously…..), so tell me. If she runs and has the good fortune to be the next President who will she blame any deficits she incurs on, the guy before her?

  • Oh by the way, the reason you keep responding to me is I am the only one that wastes his time commenting on your articles. Without me you would have no one. No need to thank me, I find it passes the time.

  • Well – - you are right about that one!

    You ARE seemingly the only one on this site – - so you should come and check out my blogsite where there are considerable MORE comments – - – If you like me that much – - and I feel that you do because you are so nice to me.
    Yeah! I appreciate you for paying attention to me. I am grateful. :) Thank you, thank you, thank you! Oh my God – - thank you so very much! I love Canada – - been there a number of times – - Wawa is great in the summertime and Thunder Bay and Windsor – - and Hudson Bay – - and fried Oofs – - I have bathed in Lake Superior and it was grand.

    Yes I think it is true – - like you said above, “Without me you would have no one.”

    Thank you for being there for me.

    God, I am such a talentless piece of trash!

    I know it!

    I admit it!

  • A funny thing happened on the way to the forum this morning!

    I happened to leaf through 10 months of your archives and guess what I discovered about comments?

    On almost every article I looked at there were – - – “No comments.

    Isn’t that ironic?

    What was that you said? – - -avatar Frustrated Joe
    09/02/2013 at 6:02 PM · Reply

    Oh by the way, the reason you keep responding to me is I am the only one that wastes his time commenting on your articles. Without me you would have no one. No need to thank me, I find it passes the time.

  • John,
    I have never felt the need for an audience, I write when something interests or infuriates me. My blog is my journal, if someone finds it of interest so be it. However, when I write I do so knowing my facts are correct and that I have no blind allegiance to any individual or political party. I realize this is not how every blogger views their writing, some do it for attention or in a vain attempt to change the opinions of others.

  • “You ARE seemingly the only one on this site – – so you should come and check out my blogsite where there are considerable MORE comments”

    I did that once or twice, even attempted to post comments. Unfortunately you censor your comments like the old Soviet news agency TASS, if they are not in full agreement with your opinion they don’t see print.

  • John,
    You are a contradiction, your very existence in print relies on the free flow of information on the Internet without censorship, yet within your own realm you deny others the same rights and privileges.

    The left often has a problem with freedoms and extending them to the masses. As they say “Socialism is for the people, not the socialists”

  • horse manure – - pure and simple!

  • Prove me wrong, let me comment on your blog uncensored, no need to fear, I will simply use facts in my comments. Or is that what scares you ?

  • My blog does not promote conservative viewpoints. There are plenty of blogs out there that do for those who are interested.

  • Funny, I never mentioned a Conservative viewpoint. I simply stated that I would use facts in my comments, I guess even you realize that the truth and Conservatism are synonymous. Like I stated in another comment, it appears you are coming around to the Right, slowly but surely.

  • Unfortunately there are “Facts” and there are “Conservative” facts and the two have no resemblance to one another. My blogs do not allow revisionism. You might find the audience you seek among the following offerings however:

  • Marques Jones-Smith Marques Jones-Smith

    That is true, but “Conservative” facts can just be addressed as “lies” for the basis of our discussion. They are representations of rhetoric told in the form of facts but are not because they seek to reinforce preconceived notions of the way that the world works rather than challenge existing political discourse and changing it.

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