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Stephen Moore’s Ridiculous Anti-Clean Energy Rant

Hard right-winger Stephen Moore took a break from pushing debunked trickle-down economic policies to take a pathetic shot at clean energy.  Let the stupid begin. …radical Greens, one of the most influential political forces in America today… Seriously?  He goes on to mention the famed Sierra Club as one of these forces.  And where did they rank in 2013 on lobbying: 755.  In fact, if we look at the top 50 interest groups giving to members of Congress this year, no sign ...

Anti-Israel Policies/Actions Is Not Anti-Semitsim

There have been growing protests in Europe against the mass murder of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip by the State of Israel. These actions are in response to the IDF killing 500 Muslims there with the vast majority of them being civilians. But what is troubling about these movements is, according to this article in the NYT, an anti-Semitic tinge has taken place at these protests. The story reads that in France: Several recent pro-Palestinian demonstrations in Paris have boiled over ...

Warren For President?

Today at the the annual Netroots Nation conference in Detroit, the nation’s largest gathering of liberal activists and organizers, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D) reportedly drew an applause that Hillary could only dream of. According to NYT and Politico reports, Warren was a rock-star while Hillary Clinton, the likely Democratic candidate for President, was absent. Warren’s populist talking points and her history of taking Wall Street to task (remember that Warren was an early advocate for the creation of a new Consumer Financial ...

Social Protest Literatue at Sparking The Left

Here at STL we are starting a new feature. In between our political-insight posts, I will start publishing excerpts or entire pieces of great literature that speak to crucial social and political issues which span the centuries. Though almost all in the Western tradition, the subject matters are transcendental. Now first to name my source, I am taking pieces from Upton Sinclair’s selected and edited collection “The Cry for Justice: An Anthology of the Great Social Protest Literature of All Time.” ...

Pulitzer-Winning Journalist Detained for Being Undocumented

I was first brought aware of Jose Antonio Vargas’ story last week in a piece he penned in Politico. He explained that he was in the Rio Grande Valley, in the city of McAllen, just north of the Mexican border. He was there to see first hand the tens of thousands of undocumented children, most of them from Central America, and observe how they were being treated. The trip was also used for a news conference appearance and vigil organized by United We Dream, ...

GOP Refuses Funding for Border Children Projects

A humanitarian crisis unseen before at our borders is becoming more and more urgent everyday at Rio Grande Valley, TX, and other Southwest locations. And yet the GOP is arguing over numbers. Yesterday President Obama requested an amount of $3.7 billion from Congress to help aid the 57,000 unaccompanied minors who illegally crossed the border from the Mexico side since October. They are mostly from violence-ridden Central American countries, like El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras (Honduras has the world’s highest murder ...

Problems galore for the new government headed by Mr. Narendra Modi in New Delhi – Imperative for the first time PM and his council of ministers in governance amidst multiple challenges

The phenomenal victory for Mr. Narendra Modi and his party (the BJP) in May 2014 general elections has not only drawn the adulation of people world over but also silenced all its die hard critics at home and abroad. It was so stupendous and stunning that even the American government and its top leaders across party lines acknowledged Mr. Modi as the emerging democratic leader of the world, setting aside their past antagonism as an error of judgment, not based ...

Embarrassing Weekend for NSA and CIA Good for Democracy

U.S. intelligence took a couple of pretty hard slaps in its face this past weekend and, when reading the articles about their wasteful and ridiculous actions, the slaps were clearly justified. First off, it was announced on Friday that Germany had arrested a man accused of spying for the United States and passing on the details of a German parliamentary committee’s investigation.  It’s pretty disgraceful that the U.S. is spending taxpayer dollars to buy spies so we can know about an ...

Has Putin Over Reached Once Too Often?

My, oh my.  We've watched this man make mince meat of Obama over the past several years.  Each time you could see the smirk broaden and the swagger get more pronounced. He and his allies - Iran, China, Syria and North Korea were truly enjoying themselves. But as happens with a lot of bullies, they get over confident and suddenly everything around them collapses. I'm wondering if this is the case with the downing of the Malaysian passenger jet. With the death ...

If Only It WERE The Heat!

What a day.  A passenger plane has been shot down over Ukraine uncomfortably close to the Russian border. Hamas reneged on the humanitarian cease fire so Israel launched their ground offensive. Children still pour across the border while Congress dithers. It's now being reported parents are giving them birth control in case they are raped during the journey. Along that line former member of Congress, Todd Aiken, who once talked about legitimate rape and the idea that women's bodies protected them from becoming ...

Hannity's Histrionics

For a person who doesn't have much faith in the intellect of pundits, I wonder why I watch them so often.  I wonder even more why the cable outlets and networks that employ them don't take more care in who they hire. Many of them get on crusades that bear no resemblance to reality.  Sean Hannity is one of the most prominent. The night before last  he was on his Bowe Bergdahl kick demanding to know why he was returned to ...

Do Actions Speak Louder Than Words?

If the President could run away from the border mess any faster I'm sure he would. It's being said it's because being seen in the setting of kids crammed into confined spaces with their scabies and lice would reflect badly on him.  It could even be his Katrina.  Well, maybe.  But who's fault is that? It goes to show his handlers aren't as smart as they think they are.  For one, drinking beer and shooting pool in Colorado, a state where ...

The Kids Always Went Home

Watching the immigration mess going full bore brought to mind a lot of things that have involved children from other nations.  The first thing that comes to mind is the Disney song It's a Small World After All that speaks to all we have in common. Hopes, dreams, all the warm fuzzy stuff. We've had exchange student programs where a student from another country lives with a local family to learn not only academics but what life in American and Americans ...

The Militia Is Coming, The Militia Is Coming!

That's all we need! News has it a call has gone out for militia, both unarmed and armed, to gather along the border to help private land owners protect their property in something called Operation Save Our Borders.  Terrific! Remember how well it went when militia turned out to help to  help Cliven Bundy in his fight over Federal grazing rights in Nevada?  It came within a hair's breadth of turning violent. I really feel for the border towns who are the ...

Will Cheney Help Or Hurt The Republicans In The Mid-Terms?

Will the re-emergence of Dick Cheney help or hurt the Republicans in the mid-terms?  There is so much going on about which voters are rightfully incensed my guess he will have little impact. I think it depends, however, on what happens in the middle east over the next couple of months. Those who believe it wouldn't be in the mess it is if it weren't for the Bush/Cheney policies and rush to war will be reminded of just that - the ...

So Sue Me

I often wonder these days how our country is going to survive the remainder of Obama's term.  Whether or not you agree with the Supreme Court decisions, they have been made never-the-less and the President has been slapped down on many occasions.  Sometimes unanimously. So why, I wonder, has the President decided to continue his mantra of it's my way or the highway.  He complains endlessly about the Republicans refusal to work with him.  House Speaker Boehner explains one reason is ...

It is a great importance to set a resolution, not to be shaken, never to tell an untruth. There is no vice so mean, so pitiful, so contemptible and he who permits himself to tell a lie once, finds it much easier to do it a second and third time, till at length it becomes habitual, he tells lies without attending to it, and truths without the world's believing him. This falsehood of the tongue leads to that of the heart, and in time depraves all it's good dispositions. Thomas Jefferson
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Where Does "Kill At Will" Go From Here?

Since all the so-called “Stand Your Ground” gun laws have been sweeping the nation and since there have been an almost tripling of gun incidents since all this began, I began to wonder what is causing the “Gun Revolution” in Modern Day America?

I talked to a lot of people, both Conservative and Democrat, to try to determine why America seems to be on this “Binge” about firearms and why some people seem to be so quick to take full advantage of what I term “Kill At Will” laws to find reasons to act in “Self Defense” and use lethal force.

While pondering these things in my heart, the question occurred to me, “Can these laws be manipulated in such a fashion that a person can get away with persuing someone and shooting them and then claiming self defense– and never be arrested or spend jail time or pay a fine or any of that stuff?

The answers I got shocked me sometimes but then I stopped to remember who it was that was answering my questions.  Many of those I asked were ordinary working  people with low paying menial jobs–kind of representative of what I have often called lower income wage earners (The Working Poor?).

I also found that the most vocal advocates for rights to own guns that I talked to also claimed, for the most part, to be “God-Fearing,” hard-working, honest, Christian and…Conservative.

Some of the statements they made about their guns were interesting and I personally found some of them to be kind of on the “Nut” fringe. (My opinion)

This one dude that I talked to took a deep draw on the beer he was drinking and stared at me with glassy eyes while he explained how Jesus had actually died so that we could have guns. He also took a deep breath and added, “And, of course–for our sins.”

This individual referred to The Second Amendment of The Constitution as “The Jesus Amendment.”

I talked to another man who was mowing his lawn.

He identified himself as a Conservative too.

This one asked me a question in answer to the one I had asked him about why people are so infatuated with gun ownership and the new “Stand Your Ground Laws.”

His answer tended along the lines of, “Hey! There are all kinds of nut cases out there running around with guns.  I need my guns to protect myself and my family in case one of them gets to feeling too froggy!”

I thought to myself, “I wonder what the limits might be that define “Too Froggy?”

Some of the people I talked to about this problem seemed to think they needed a personal armory to protect themselves from what they considered to be an ever more corrupt government. (I don’t know how that is supposed to work out.)

The kid next door to me was quick to say, “Yeah! I got my guns and on the day when some government agent comes around to try and take them away from me…”

He apparently thought he had said too much because he simply walked away without saying another word.

There were quite a few guys that I talked to who seemed to actually believe that Guns and Jesus are inseparable in their value—they let me know that you can’t really have a relationship with Jesus without a gun and you really can’t have  a gun if you don’t have the Jesus relationship going for yourself.

I am still working on figuring that one out.

I met this old man who informed me, “Yeah, I carry a firearm and I have the license for it too.”

He informed me that his Bible told him that a man can’t be a real American or a real Christian without a gun.

He also informed me that his Bible told him that a real Christian cannot live in the same house with “Seven nasty old cats.”

I am getting the idea by talking to all these people that a lot of them are operating from some kind of paranoia and that the paranoia seems to be fueled by both a really deep insecurity and this, in turn, works out to a lot of pent-up hate.

I guess the day has returned when the gun has become the “Equalizer” and the “Tranquilizer” once more like in the Old West.

My real fear is that a lot of the guns and the permits to carry them will end up in the hands of people with short emotional fuses and that a lot of carnage is possible if fuses are lit and tempers flare.

Is this a phase that America is going through or are people actually arming themselves for some kind of tragic confrontation with the forces of reality?

Only time will tell and I hope that not too many people get hurt in the various frays that are bound to erupt as the laws get more and more relaxed about guns, their ownership and the definitions of when it is legal to actually use them.

The one thing that I personally hope someone with some kind of authority does is to re-define “Self Defense” so that a line may be drawn in the courts between what is legally considered to be actually protecting one’s property or life and what is murder.

This gun thing gets scarier with each passing day in my opinion.

Posted by John Liming as his political opinion.

The Picture Above: This picture of a man hunting comes from The Morgue File ( and is item No: MF_7457_JPG By: Taliesin and is published under the Morgue File License which can be seen on their site.

John Liming - American Liberal Times

Author: John Liming - American Liberal Times

I am an American Man, 72-years-old, and a Veteran of The U.S. Military. I have served honorably in both The United States Army (National Guard) and The United States Air Force for a total of seven years and three months active duty during what is now known as The Vietnam Era. I am a concerned citizen and refer to myself as "A Crazy Left Wing Liberal Nut Case with occasional Right Wing Conservative tendencies. I am particular fearful that we might get to the point, in our internal power struggles where we would be a One Party Nation.

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