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Right Wing Wants To Raise Taxes On The Poor!

There seems to be a new idea floating around the halls of Radical Conservatism that says the Poor in America have it much too easy and the Rich don’t have it good enough.

In the opinion of this writer, that idea is totally convoluted, but I can see where Rightie and Friends would think that way.   As far as I am concerned, all their recent actions in Congress and on the campaign trail point in that direction.  

I am totally convinced that in the view of some of them, the Rich must get richer by any means legally (But not necessarily morally) possible and the poor are the ones who should have to pay for it all.

Some Righties claim that there is a great number of lower income Americans who do not pay any Income Tax at all and that this causes the greater financial burden to fall on the rich.

This Rightie claim is, of course, pure Conservatist smoke and mirrors and is a clever manipulation of some facts and perceptions.

The truth is that in the cases where some of the poor and the desperately poor and what I call “The Working Poor” do not pay “Income” taxes, it is because they simply do not make enough money in order to be required to pay.

It has nothing at all with these classes of people wanting a free ride or a handout at the expense of the Rich.

If you make below a certain amount of money in this country, you are not required to pay Income Tax in most situations.  That is my understanding of it.

This does not mean that taxes are not with held from even the smallest paychecks because it most definitely is with held—(And refunded after tax season if the taxpayer doing the filing meets the criteria for refunds.)

At least this is the way it seems to have worked during my working life of more than 50 years.

But the idea that lower income earners pay no taxes is totally ludicrous for the following reason:  If I am not seriously mistaken, these people are definitely required to pay at least the following taxes– which can amount to significant portions of total income in some instances:

(a) Sales tax on purchases

(b) Property Taxes for those who own their homes.

(c) Various payroll taxes such as FICA and Social Security.

(d) Various other taxes as assessed such as the tax on gasoline and some services rendered to consumers by service providers.

The often-repeated mantra (Much favored by The Right Wing in my opinion) seems to be that half of America is populated by low-income handout seekers who want a free ride on the backs of the “Honest” and hard-working Rich.

This attitude by the privileged elite leads to such notions as “Maybe the tax laws should be re-written so that these poor and working poor would be required to pay more in taxes than they already do.”

I can almost hear them breathing hard as they contemplate lowering the minimum earnings requirement for paying Federal Income Taxes to the point where even the pittance from a minimum wage would be taxed.

It would not be too ridiculous for me to believe that Rightie is capable of coming up with some cockamamie Income Tax scheme where every cent of earned income, no matter how small, would be subject to Income Tax.

You constantly earn below the poverty level?

I think the Far Right Wing Extreme answer to that would be to lower the poverty level dramatically.

Right now, as I write this blog post, I understand that the working poor are already paying more than their share of state and local taxes.

In some states, I am told, the tax rate for the poor (Those earning somewhere around $13,000 a year is somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 or 11 percent while the rate for those earning somewhere just beyond the $200,000 mark have a tax obligation of a mere 4 percent.

The trend in this country today, as I understand it, is that the richest are paying ever less percentages of their income in taxes while the working middle class and the poor are paying ever high rates.

The spinners will deny these claims, but then propaganda is what they do best.

You will hear nonsense from some on the Right that the rich already pay 70% of all the taxes that are paid in this country, but if you pull some public records and do a little study and research, you will be able to see through that in short order. 

Here are some facts:

Click between Parenthesis: ( Tax Facts )

Learn More: ( Why 46% do not pay )

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Author: John Liming - American Liberal Times

I am an American Man, 72-years-old, and a Veteran of The U.S. Military. I have served honorably in both The United States Army (National Guard) and The United States Air Force for a total of seven years and three months active duty during what is now known as The Vietnam Era. I am a concerned citizen and refer to myself as "A Crazy Left Wing Liberal Nut Case with occasional Right Wing Conservative tendencies. I am particular fearful that we might get to the point, in our internal power struggles where we would be a One Party Nation.

2 comments to Right Wing Wants To Raise Taxes On The Poor!

  • Dear sir,

    I truly appreciate your service to our country and wish to thank you from the bottom of my heart.

    First of all I am a Constituionalist and I know that understanding and appling the Constitution will solve most of our problems.

    Obviously giving people welfare or unemplyment checks for no exchange doesn’t work. That is what it is all about whether a plan of action actually resolves the situation. Since 1967 and the Great Society we have been pouring money(Right now our grandkids money.)into poverty with absolutely no results except for the breakdown of the family,the government is now the daddy.

    I come from a very poor family. I know wherefore I speak. Thank God I had a Dad for the first 10 years of my life. It was his example that led me and family out of poverty. That and a whole hell of a lot of hard work to the tune of 90 hours a week.

    There is a natural law at work here that is overlooked by everyone. Giving people money for no exchange causes inertia. Getting a thing started takes alot more energy from a standstill then when it’s moving. Most parents have experienced this with their kids. Just allow kids to sit around doing nothing and they will continue doing this until something drastic happens. Well, it works the same with adults.

    Governments are incapable of having judgement on anything. Mechanisms are set up through policies which operate the same no matter the circumstances. That is the genius of the Founders. They realized that it’s the people who make the country work not the government or the politicians. The people constrain and restrict the government and the politicians not the other way around.

    A parent doesn’t raise their children to be dependent on them when they become adults. Why would a government do this to people? It’s a good way to make people more pliable and easy to control isn’t it? Something to think about, hey?

    Tom LoGrasso

  • Thank you for your comment. I sincerely appreciate what it is that you are saying and thank you for your reasonable tone.
    In regard to: (“Obviously giving people welfare or unemplyment checks for no exchange doesn’t work.”) I have always believed that who receives this government assistance incurs some kind of obligation to contribute back into the system in some manner.

    Of course, I do have the problem with the Unemployment Checks argument because, if I am not mistaken, many who become unemployed have been working and paying taxes and if the Unemployment Check thing is temporary, I feel they have sort of paid a kind of insurance premium and that when they get their checks they are simply making use of that insurance.

    But in the case of Welfare..that is something else again.

    I have always thought that every able bodied welfare recipient ought to be required to work on infrastructure repair and replacement or in some kind of meaningful, contributive and public service of some kind.

    I also think that welfare cases ought to be re-evaluated every fiscal year and new means testing applied yearly.

    I also think that some of those who receive disability from Social Security under the SSI thing are scamming the system. There are a lot of alcoholics and dope dependents on SSI because they have convinced some MD somewhere that their disability stems from their self-induced habituations and I think that costs American Taxpayers far more than it should. I think a mechanism needs to be in place to kick the scammers off the rolls.

    We agree on some issues here, I can see that.

    I do agree to the point that where circumstances are right, those who receive assistance from taxpayer-funded programs ought to be required to do something to at least attempt to pay back.

    Thanks again for presenting your case to this old die hard Liberal in a reasoned and reasonable tone. I appreciate the fact that there are still some with Conservative views (Darned few if I am not mistaken) who are nice (Like You).

    I had gotten pretty bitter about Conservatism until I read your comment. Now my spirits are raised again thanks to your kindness and consideration of my feelings.

    I have been getting a lot of pretty nasty personal inuendo lately but you have healed something in me and I am grateful to you.

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