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Former NSA Chief Keith Alexander Quickly Becoming the Villain

Certain people, who had their egos (not national security) terribly hurt by the Edward Snowden revelations, continue to call Snowden names and stuff and show their outrage toward him for exposing the NSA’s wrongdoing.  It would seem, however, they might want to redirect their outrage toward another former employee of the NSA: ex-chief Keith Alexander. It was revealed yesterday the NSA is now being sued by a reporter for not disclosing Alexander’s financial records in the interest of making sure there ...

Palestine Borders and Demographics Prove to be A Ghetto

Thanks to a good idea given to me by my partner here at STL, I started to research and analyze some geographic information regarding the Jewish land-grab in Palestine. I then followed by studying some demographic info on the Gaza Strip and drew some interesting conclusions. Here’s what I found: First, some great maps over at Wikipedia with adjoining historical context info and links portraying the boundaries of Palestine/Israel since the 1916 Sykes-Picot Agreement (The linked information could have you reading ...

Social Protest Lit: Ebenezer Elliot, “The People’s Anthem”

A poem from Ebenezer Elliot entitled The People’s Anthem from Book IV called “Out of The Depths.” This chapter is focused on man’s pursuit of remedy for social injustice: When wilt thou save the people? O God of mercy! when? Not kings and lords, but nations! Flowers of the heart, O God, are they! Let them not pass, like weeds, away! Their heritage a sunless day! God save the people! Shall bring crime for ever, Strength aiding still the strong? Is it thy will, O Father? That man shall toil for wrong? “No!” ...

Stephen Moore’s Ridiculous Anti-Clean Energy Rant

Hard right-winger Stephen Moore took a break from pushing debunked trickle-down economic policies to take a pathetic shot at clean energy.  Let the stupid begin. …radical Greens, one of the most influential political forces in America today… Seriously?  He goes on to mention the famed Sierra Club as one of these forces.  And where did they rank in 2013 on lobbying: 755.  In fact, if we look at the top 50 interest groups giving to members of Congress this year, no sign ...

Anti-Israel Policies/Actions Is Not Anti-Semitsim

There have been growing protests in Europe against the mass murder of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip by the State of Israel. These actions are in response to the IDF killing 500 Muslims there with the vast majority of them being civilians. But what is troubling about these movements is, according to this article in the NYT, an anti-Semitic tinge has taken place at these protests. The story reads that in France: Several recent pro-Palestinian demonstrations in Paris have boiled over ...

Warren For President?

Today at the the annual Netroots Nation conference in Detroit, the nation’s largest gathering of liberal activists and organizers, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D) reportedly drew an applause that Hillary could only dream of. According to NYT and Politico reports, Warren was a rock-star while Hillary Clinton, the likely Democratic candidate for President, was absent. Warren’s populist talking points and her history of taking Wall Street to task (remember that Warren was an early advocate for the creation of a new Consumer Financial ...

Social Protest Literatue at Sparking The Left

Here at STL we are starting a new feature. In between our political-insight posts, I will start publishing excerpts or entire pieces of great literature that speak to crucial social and political issues which span the centuries. Though almost all in the Western tradition, the subject matters are transcendental. Now first to name my source, I am taking pieces from Upton Sinclair’s selected and edited collection “The Cry for Justice: An Anthology of the Great Social Protest Literature of All Time.” ...

Pulitzer-Winning Journalist Detained for Being Undocumented

I was first brought aware of Jose Antonio Vargas’ story last week in a piece he penned in Politico. He explained that he was in the Rio Grande Valley, in the city of McAllen, just north of the Mexican border. He was there to see first hand the tens of thousands of undocumented children, most of them from Central America, and observe how they were being treated. The trip was also used for a news conference appearance and vigil organized by United We Dream, ...

Selective Outrage

War is hell.  All we have to do is look around the world to see its toll.  That being said, I don't understand the lack of outrage coming from this President and his administration other than that aimed at our one ally - Israel which is doing no more than trying to protect it's people from rocket fire and constant raids from Hamas. The fact that Palestinian civilians are getting killed is a tragic yet unavoidable aspect of this war.  Why ...

Why Are We So Full Of Hate?

What has happened to human kind?  No matter where you look we find ourselves surrounded by a world filled with hate. What puzzles me is how it's combined with political correctness.  Take this country where so many words are now frowned upon and even forbidden because they are hurtful to certain people.  Redskins, squaw, savage plus a whole lot applying to blacks, orientals and hispanics not to mention middle easterners.  Has it dawned on anyone banning the names has done nothing ...

Has Putin Over Reached Once Too Often?

My, oh my.  We've watched this man make mince meat of Obama over the past several years.  Each time you could see the smirk broaden and the swagger get more pronounced. He and his allies - Iran, China, Syria and North Korea were truly enjoying themselves. But as happens with a lot of bullies, they get over confident and suddenly everything around them collapses. I'm wondering if this is the case with the downing of the Malaysian passenger jet. With the death ...

If Only It WERE The Heat!

What a day.  A passenger plane has been shot down over Ukraine uncomfortably close to the Russian border. Hamas reneged on the humanitarian cease fire so Israel launched their ground offensive. Children still pour across the border while Congress dithers. It's now being reported parents are giving them birth control in case they are raped during the journey. Along that line former member of Congress, Todd Aiken, who once talked about legitimate rape and the idea that women's bodies protected them from becoming ...

Hannity's Histrionics

For a person who doesn't have much faith in the intellect of pundits, I wonder why I watch them so often.  I wonder even more why the cable outlets and networks that employ them don't take more care in who they hire. Many of them get on crusades that bear no resemblance to reality.  Sean Hannity is one of the most prominent. The night before last  he was on his Bowe Bergdahl kick demanding to know why he was returned to ...

Do Actions Speak Louder Than Words?

If the President could run away from the border mess any faster I'm sure he would. It's being said it's because being seen in the setting of kids crammed into confined spaces with their scabies and lice would reflect badly on him.  It could even be his Katrina.  Well, maybe.  But who's fault is that? It goes to show his handlers aren't as smart as they think they are.  For one, drinking beer and shooting pool in Colorado, a state where ...

The Kids Always Went Home

Watching the immigration mess going full bore brought to mind a lot of things that have involved children from other nations.  The first thing that comes to mind is the Disney song It's a Small World After All that speaks to all we have in common. Hopes, dreams, all the warm fuzzy stuff. We've had exchange student programs where a student from another country lives with a local family to learn not only academics but what life in American and Americans ...

The Militia Is Coming, The Militia Is Coming!

That's all we need! News has it a call has gone out for militia, both unarmed and armed, to gather along the border to help private land owners protect their property in something called Operation Save Our Borders.  Terrific! Remember how well it went when militia turned out to help to  help Cliven Bundy in his fight over Federal grazing rights in Nevada?  It came within a hair's breadth of turning violent. I really feel for the border towns who are the ...

In every country where man is free to think and to speak, differences of opinion will arise from difference of perception, and the imperfection of reason; but these differences when permitted, as in this happy country, to purify themselves by free discussion, are but as passing clouds overspreading our land transiently and leaving our horizon more bright and serene. Thomas Jefferson
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Right Wing Cheers Idea Of Child Labor!

This is a child laborer in America in the early 20th century. The following article is strictly the opinion of John Liming, author of “The Liming Liberal Digest.”

It just might be possible for our beloved America to go to Hell in a hand basket yet! From some of what I have been reading and hearing coming out of the mouths of some of Conservatism’s rising stars, this country could be in real trouble if a Republican were to win the White House in 2012.

There is at least one proposal reportedly being touted by at least one of their candidates that seems to me to suggest a repeal of child labor law for the good of society.  The crap proposals are always for “The Good Of Society” aren’t they?

To my knowledge and belief, the actual words “For the good of society” were not actually spoken by the individual I am talking about here.  Those are my words–not those of the individual. – but I am responding to something I have been reading that I think is absolutely one of the most horrible things I have ever heard.  I have heard that a candidate for the Presidency of The United States has advocated for removal of some of the restrictions on certain forms of child labor.

It seems that there are reports being circulated that former House Speaker, Newt Gingrich (Now the Republican Front Runner in the race for the Presidency) has not only suggested that poor kids should be in the labor force but that it would be alright for even children as young as 5-years-old to be working as well. (Se the linked item below for full details of what I am talking about.)

This is an item I noticed in “Raw Story” as I was reading through the various blogs and news sources on the Internet today.  My jaw literally dropped at what I was reading. I was aghast and shocked!

As The former Speaker was making the case at Saturday Night’s presidential debate, the Republican audience is reported to have virtually erupted with applause and approval for the outrageous idea about re-instituting child labor in The United States.  It is further reported that other GOP debate audiences have also cheered the death penalty and letting a man without insurance just go ahead and die without any kind of help from anybody and they have also booed a gay U.S. Soldier.

Now to my way of thinking, this only shows just how reprehensible Conservatism has become.  I cannot believe that grown adults who are supposed to be responsible thinkers and, in many cases “Christian” to boot, are actually cheering some ideas that sound to me like they were originated in the deepest pits of Hell itself.

Of course, what you are reading right now is simply my personal opinions. But to me, the idea of allowing any degree of a  return to child labor in The United States is downright untenable and  totally unacceptable.

I wonder that if something like this were ever to transpire in this country, if we would see the return of a vast army of under age manual laborers toiling away in the dark, dirty and dangerous conditions of sweat shops for next-to-nothing wages and no benefits like it was at a shameful time in our History? 

Will Conservatism recognize the billions of dollars in extra profits that could be tapped on the backs of innocent poor children and manipulate the political system to the point where these kids could be indentured like that?

Will we see the day return when kids will be locked inside of factories or mines so that some fat cat can get fatter and the idea will be sold on the basis that it is only to teach poor kids the work ethic?

What is going to happen if some government big wig finally comes to the conclusion that legalized child labor is a heck of a lot cheaper than adult labor because kids will settle for less and are more easily manipulated and intimidated?

In the early 20th century, there were as many as two million kids employed in the slavery known as “Child Labor” in The United States. Two million  kids were almost forced to work at jobs designed for adults in despicable and deplorable conditions because families simply could not earn enough at their jobs to make it without the kid’s help. These poor kids were viewed simply as a part of the individual family economy.

It got to the point where child laborers rarely had any opportunity at all to be kids. For many of them, work became far more enticing than getting an education and so they were doomed to work their childhood away for a few piddling extra dollars and often at disastrous results for their health and safety.

Child labor absolutely condemned thousands upon thousands of American kids to a future of illiteracy, poverty and never-ending misery.

And you are going to stand there and tell me that this is the kind of thing that is drawing cheers from an audience of GOP supporters? The only thing I can say to that is, “That would be typical of them in my personal opinion.” I mean, haven’t members of Conservatism shown themselves to be “All Heart” on many occasions as they attack the Middle Class, the lower wage earners and the elderlyy– and now, the children?

If that is the case, all I have to say for America is “God Help Us All!”

Learn more:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/10/gop-debate-audience-cheers-child-labor/

Learn even more:

http://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/hine-photos/

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John Liming - American Liberal Times

Author: John Liming - American Liberal Times

I am an American Man, 72-years-old, and a Veteran of The U.S. Military. I have served honorably in both The United States Army (National Guard) and The United States Air Force for a total of seven years and three months active duty during what is now known as The Vietnam Era. I am a concerned citizen and refer to myself as "A Crazy Left Wing Liberal Nut Case with occasional Right Wing Conservative tendencies. I am particular fearful that we might get to the point, in our internal power struggles where we would be a One Party Nation.

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