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May [the Declaration of Independence] be to the world, what I believe it will be (to some parts sooner, to others later, but finally to all), the signal of arousing men to burst the chains under which monkish ignorance and superstition had persuaded them to bind themselves, and to assume the blessings and security of self-government. Thomas Jefferson
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Christian America Can Definitely Afford Her Entitlement Programs!

A lot of Americans profess to be “Christian” and a lot of politicians have more or less openly allied themselves with one form of Christianity or another and given the impressions many times that their agendas are aligned with Holy Writ and Divine Will.

Since many people are laboring under the delusion that The United States was founded by Christian Founders on Christian Principles and that America is, by virtue of this fantasy, a “Christian” nation, I am not surprised that there might be some who may be tempted to exploit religion for political ends.

So, I see many of the powerful and influential on the political landscape who have most recently presented themselves somewhat in the light of their having been “Told By God” to do this or that and who have more or less made a spectacle of their beliefs for what looks to me like the purpose of gaining favor with certain religiously-oriented voting blocks.

I have no argument with politicians professing Christianity or, in fact, practicing their faith. I am pleased when I hear that someone in the political arena is focused on God and trying to do what is right and proper according to these high moral standards.

It just worries me, sometimes, when I note that some of those who claim to be “Christian” in all that they do are among the very ones who stand in opposition to some government programs that I am sure would be heartily approved by the God they say they follow.

For instance:  Millions of elderly and retired folks in America have little or no personal income outside the amounts they receive in their monthly Social Security allowance.

Even so, I hear there are some politicians in Washington who are in positions of power where they can influence legislation and  who reportedly work constantly to get “Entitlements” either drastically reduced or to get them “Privatized” so that the elderly, who already have little enough, can pay exorbitant administration fees to Account Managers and who stand to lose their proverbial britches if something should go wrong with the Money Markets to which some of them intend to tie Social Security.

I will let you in on a secret!  The “Christians” who are fighting against the best interests of the beneficiaries of these so-called “Entitlements” are not Democrats, Liberals or Progressives— and they are not, in my view, Independents either.

I do not see the severe reduction or even elimination of our Social Safety Nets for the middle class, the lower wage earners, the poor, the desperately poor and all the other classes of people who benefit from these truly “Christian” government outreaches as being particularly “Christian” in and of itself.

In fact, I view resistance by elected officials to the so-called “Entitlements” as anything but a “Christian” attitude regardless of the justification.

If some  myth informed and myth led advocates of this kind of severe social change have their way, I have not doubt at all that millions of folks will be cast into the outer darkness of need, want, hunger and despair and that their health and even their lives may be at risk because of some one’s desire to severely reduce or even end benefits to those who need help the most.

I have some admiration for that part of the American Conservative  ideology that stands for creating circumstances where people can earn their own way and stand on their own two feet independent of a lifetime of what they like to call “Government Handouts.”

But so far, in the past 60 or so years, I have not seen too much positive development that would promote or support  this ideal among their leadership or their agendas.

Some of the more delusional of The Washington Power Elite are fond of calling the very wealthiest 1% of Americans, “The Job Creators.”

That is who they want to give more tax breaks to– those “Job Creators.”  These tax breaks for the wealthy began in earnest during the previous Conservative Administration and continue to the present day.

But I have not seen all that many jobs being created as a result of all this pandering to the rich and to Corporate America and to Wall Street and I don’t think anyone else who doesn’t have their head in the sand has either.

More failed policies from the Parties of No, Nothing and Nonsense.

I am saying here that I wish those who profess to embrace Christianity would show more evidence of their commitment when it comes time to govern in the capacities to which they have been elected.

Some of the angrier pundits who confront me on these issues claim that there is a vast difference between “Christian Governance” and “Charity” and that the two do not necessarily go hand-in-hand.

This is usually just about at the point where a lot of them squint their all-knowing eyes at me and say things like, “Who has ordained you as the supreme master of all morality and religious knowledge?” (And other such demeaning challenges.

Observing the way that some of them conduct their affairs in the Hallowed Halls of Government, I might be justified in asking them the same question.

But I think if I did that, all they would do would be to growl at me and go huffily on their way.

How many times have I heard the old saw, “How dare you judge anybody?  You are not to judge anybody!”

I will agree with that but I will also remind some of those folks who say these things that there is both discernment of spirits and an obligation on the part of believers to warn the faithful when something appears amiss.

I believe it was Jesus who said, “My sheep hear my voice and they will not follow another.”

My message is simple.  When someone in politics utters a statement about how things should be and what is needed to achieve the satisfaction of that need, then get out The Holy Bible and see if what they are proposing lines up with the Instructions from The Most High.

Remember that if something smells fishy, it might well be.  There is that old saying about “If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck and there are feathers attached, chances are very good that it is a duck indeed.”

If politicians in this “Christian” nation want to do something, then I guess all we really have to do is listen to their proposals, weigh what the consequences of acting on their proposals might be and then see if what they are proposing passes the “What Would Jesus Do” test.

I think if you do this, you will discover that The Lord is not all that much in favor of taking the food out of the mouths of low income children or in throwing Grandma under the bus over Social Security and Medicare issues.

And for those who will argue that The United States is so far into debt that these “Entitlements” cannot be sustained, let me remind them that it is God Himself who is the Source of everything that this Nation needs and He is more than abundantly able to provide for those needs if The People will remain faithful to His Word and His Promises.

Check out the Scripture found in 1 John 2: 15-17 and pray about all this and then feel more than free to turn on that talk show you have been itching to hear.

Posted by John Liming as his political opinions.

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John Liming - American Liberal Times

Author: John Liming - American Liberal Times

I am an American Man, 72-years-old, and a Veteran of The U.S. Military. I have served honorably in both The United States Army (National Guard) and The United States Air Force for a total of seven years and three months active duty during what is now known as The Vietnam Era. I am a concerned citizen and refer to myself as "A Crazy Left Wing Liberal Nut Case with occasional Right Wing Conservative tendencies. I am particular fearful that we might get to the point, in our internal power struggles where we would be a One Party Nation.

4 comments to Christian America Can Definitely Afford Her Entitlement Programs!

  • What have I done?
    I a previous comment on one this authors postings I suggested hat he might want to consider becoming an evangelist and fully utilize his ability to rant with little substance or fact? You can view my previous comment here….. http://www.thejeffersontree.com/the-ugliest-and-costliest-war-of-all/

    However considering the author and I don’t exactly see eye to eye on much I did not expect him to follow through with my suggestion. However now I see he is ranting on Christianity , the Holy Writ, and Divine Will. Heck, he’s even quoting scripture and suggesting prayer.

    I wonder if he has purchased a tent yet ?

  • From the various mistakes in spelling on this unwarranted personal attack, that has nothing to do with the substance of the post it is supposed to comment on, I can only conclude that something is desperately wrong. I do know one thing: In my view, this kind of stuff is totally out of place in this kind of community. I have been “Ranting” on Christianity because I have been ordained as a Christian Minister and hold an appropriate license. It doesn’t matter to me what this individual has to say. The only thing that is important to me is that America take notice of which side of the political aisle this is coming from and vote accordingly.

  • Don’t mind the spelling mistakes, just goes to show that all of us “righties” are a little simple minded (although I imagine you always suspected that). Actually the cause of the mistakes is my flipping off the deep end when I read some of the off the wall, socialist, derogatory material you post on a regular basis regarding political philosophies that differ from your own.

    As for my comments regarding Christianity, I have no bone to pick with any religion, as they say to each his own. If I unintentionally offended your calling, I apologize for that. As you pointed out you are an ordained Christian minister and as such I guess that gives you far more right to rant about that particular religion than myself or most of your readers I suspect.

    However, if you are going to use that defense when it comes to religion and your reasoning for ranting about it, may I inquire if you have been “ordained” as a right wing conservative and hold an appropriate license (or say maybe a Republican party membership)to allow you to rant so venomously about the “righties”.

    By the way, I was always taught that the Christian religion preached forgiveness and loving your fellow man, I seemed to have missed those elements in many of your posts condemning the right.

    On a last note, “In my view, this kind of stuff is totally out of place in this kind of community”, your kidding, right? Most of your posts practically accuse the “righties” of raping and pillaging the land, you offer no facts, just condemnation. As for Obamma, the way you write about him I am beginning to think that you believe he is the second coming. So please don’t pretend that you have a higher moral standard when it comes to opinion on this board or that there is “sacred” ground.

    One last question, did you manage to buy a tent yet?

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